i’ve got a fever
the only cure is dismantling capitalist white supremacist heteropatriarchy
maybe insteading of demanding an apology from a news anchor—or, maybe *in addition to* demanding apology—our great *F*eminist leaders should be asking why 5 mega corporations control almost all of our media in the US. and if that is ok.
Because capitalism :((((
not sure how i feel about this. on the one hand, YES. give this woman credit where credit is due and it is FANTASTIC that she gets to frame herself on her own terms.
on the other hand. we all know what is going on with the *F*eminist #onlinefeminism bullshit. we know how that industry works. and i am extremely EXTREMELY skittish around what the repercussions will be—how this action will be institutionalized and how future actions will be driven by personalities rather than by centering the needs of the victim.
I think it’s super super important to create space for this woman, her work and her understanding of herself and the actions she’s taken—but i need an ANALYSIS of and critical examination of the overall situation and what a *************MOVEMENT************** (there’s that DAMN WORD AGAIN) can learn from it and how it can change and shift etc.
most most most importantly—we need great big huge red lights on the REALITY that so called *F*eminist #onlinefeminism media DID NOT SUPPORT OR FOLLOW UP ON REQUESTS FOR HELP FROM THIS WOMAN. that it was *ANONYMOUS* that did. that the collective action and power that FORCED visible accountability in this case did NOT come from #onlinefeminism.
will #onlinefeminism be brave enough to admit that? and make that truth visible? and critique itself?
Well done Sunday Times, you decided to write a spread on Feminism and successfully included all the problematic white cis feminists who parade around ruining feminism for the rest of us. Lena Dunham, and her lack of PoC in “Girls” as well as her problematic, racist, Orientalist travel diaries soon to be published as a book; Hadley Freeman, who shames women like Beyonce for being happy enough with their bodies to pose/wear little clothing (and thus, Beyonce is not allowed call herself a feminist!?); the Vagenda for dismissing intersectionality because it’s ~too hard~, for always sticking up for Moran, and this lovely quote, ignoring all the feminist efforts by WoC, “feminism is, and to an extent always has been, a white, middle class movement”; and Caitlin Moran, possibly the biggest douche EVER, who’s slut-shamed, victim-blamed, “literally could not give a shit” about the lack of PoC in Lena’s “Girls” and never, ever, EVER owns up or apologises for her mistakes.
Yep, a really fantastic load of feminists you have there, and of course, there was obviously no space to feature any feminists of colour right (or feminists with worthwhile, non-problematic, intersectional points of view…?)
social justice identitarians love branding themselves, don’t they? reactionary whiteness is terribly trend aware.
are you kidding me with that vagenda bullshit? intersectional feminism or no feminism, i say.
When people ask me what folks are talking about when I say “mainstream feminism” — well. It is this. And even if you do not agree with the things these feminists are putting forth as mainstream feminist values, these are still the people and values getting the column inches.
This is a large part of the modern face of feminism and it is a problem.
So Mandy Stadtmiller, deputy editor at XOJane, came out defending the Onion’s calling Quevenzhane a c*nt last night. And she still is failing to get it. This is the same mag, mind you, that went off its collective head when Limbaugh decided to call Sandra Fluke a slut.
So really, the next time you decide to go after WoC for not necessarily identifying as feminist, and ignore their valid reasons for not wanting a connection with white feminist thought?
I’m going to ask you to shut the fuck up, sit the fuck down, and think silently on why exactly you think WoC need to submit themselves to the casual racism of white women and lend your movement the legitimacy it keeps throwing away.
Teachers are often unaware of the gender distribution of talk in their classrooms. They usually consider that they give equal amounts of attention to girls and boys, and it is only when they make a tape recording that they realize that boys are dominating the interactions.
Dale Spender, an Australian feminist who has been a strong advocate of female rights in this area, noted that teachers who tried to restore the balance by deliberately ‘favouring’ the girls were astounded to find that despite their efforts they continued to devote more time to the boys in their classrooms. Another study reported that a male science teacher who managed to create an atmosphere in which girls and boys contributed more equally to discussion felt that he was devoting 90 per cent of his attention to the girls. And so did his male pupils. They complained vociferously that the girls were getting too much talking time.
In other public contexts, too, such as seminars and debates, when women and men are deliberately given an equal amount of the highly valued talking time, there is often a perception that they are getting more than their fair share. Dale Spender explains this as follows:
The talkativeness of women has been gauged in comparison not with men but with silence. Women have not been judged on the grounds of whether they talk more than men, but of whether they talk more than silent women.
In other words, if women talk at all, this may be perceived as ‘too much’ by men who expect them to provide a silent, decorative background in many social contexts. This may sound outrageous, but think about how you react when precocious children dominate the talk at an adult party. As women begin to make inroads into formerly ‘male’ domains such as business and professional contexts, we should not be surprised to find that their contributions are not always perceived positively or even accurately.”
I would be curious to see the results of a similar study on race, or including race as a complicating variable.
i just don’t think i’ll ever be over this song.